Thread: Sea Bandit

well said CHOOKC i have been told many a time with my polaris that the computer says there is nothing wrong with it when there clearly is
computers can't replace the pearsonal touch

Since FreeWilly141414 hasn't bothered to log on since the 3rd March 2008 at 2:54, lets just drop this thread now.

I personally am disappointed he/she didn't back their craft with a test eval by Slasher/Chookc or someone else with respected long term PWC knowledge.

Originally Posted by Bearded Shark

Mate, trust me....I'm a motor mechanic by trade & I've raced moto-x for yrs. I see your point but RIGHT NOW, the chinese shit IS SHIT. And ANY good manufacturer will have a good parts supply in stock. They make equally shit try-hard dirt bikes that seem to take up 2 pages of the local classifieds. The steel is soft, alloy is brittle (it's cast, never forged), threads aren't greased, bolts are cross threaded, seals don't fit correctly, joins aren't fully welded, stuff me I could keep going for hrs. I've worked on several of these boat anchors. If they really are as good as the manufacturers they copy then charge the same price, & watch yourself go bankrupt. I dare say that yamaha wouldn't have sold their moulds just yet which means ya copy cats would've had to make their own. So to say they are just as good is utter shit!

Do you think you are the 1st to bring chinese crap into OZ? They sell like hotcakes at 1st coz of the price then when every dumbass who bought 1 realizes how unengineered they really are, they flood the clasifieds. At the time "Jap crap" was exactly that, there was nothing of that sort of item being made in china either. China HAD the good name, but for different creations to what was coming out of Japan. You will note too that none of the Jap manufacturers that exist today started out by copying someone elses product.

Here's an idea...give me one to test. I'll treat it the same as I treat my own ski & we'll see how long it lasts. I've had this argument 1000 times & haven't been wrong yet.

Hmm seems your one of the few honest MM's out there, ,,,,
In reply to you post ;

Why should I give you one to thrash ( I can do that myself , which I do ! ) just to prove a point to the small community here, maybe if you worked for a large related mag no problems , when do you want to pick one up ? Actually the Jetski dealer in Mandurah water tested one with a veiw to selling them and were quite happy with its performance ,,,

Another area where you fall short:
How many performance parts are available for your skis?
Will you (honestly) supply parts for your skis for the standard 10 yrs as required by aussie law?
Cracked heads etc can't be welded (too soft).
And they seem to always be twice the weight of the model they are copied from.
Spark plugs are usually some wierd thing unavailable over here.

We want parts available NOW in time to fix our toys by next w-end. Sorry, I'd rather buy from a manufacturer who has put in the hard yards for yrs, done the engineering & knows what they are doing than buy from an unknown copy cat who claims their immitation is just as good.

If you're gonna sell something, be honest. You DO get what you pay for. My $1.50's worth anyhoo.

More of my reply ,,,,,

Another area where you fall short:
How many performance parts are available for your skis? None yet
Will you (honestly) supply parts for your skis for the standard 10 yrs as required by aussie law? Unless the factory goes broke yes they will be
Cracked heads etc can't be welded (too soft). Possible but why not just throw on a new one,,,the engine is a copy of the 700cc unit in the VX700 Yahama even using genuine Mikuni carbys,,,
And they seem to always be twice the weight of the model they are copied from. They do approx 73kph which aint bad for a 800cc 2 stoke,,,,
Spark plugs are usually some wierd thing unavailable over here. Mine have NGK's ,,,,,,

Originally Posted by retro_racer

well, popcorn out lads...

i was out in china last year looking at these vx110 knock offs... lets say that after seeing piston number 4 blow a hole in the side of the ski just behind my leg, it was a 4 stroke engine based on a mitsubishi mirage engine...... it wasnt a mitsubishi engine, it was a copy......3 ski's later, all with different problems, i walked out shaking my head..they were about $13K landed in oz....

i am not bagging things from china, but there needs to be some stringent quality control if things are to improve.... there are some areas where this is happening.... but the ratio of good products to bad...... well i reckon for every 1 good product, there are about 1 million bad ones..

i work in the area of medical electronics, there are still issues of machines that are being made in china even under stringent quality control...

stuff from germany, israel, are awesome...

just my 2 cents worth.... and why i have a seadoo!!!

Jeez blew #4 out the block ,,,,,glad I never imported that one but I saw them personally in China at the trade show and they are crap,,,,,If your going to copy some thing copy a decent brand ! Mitsubishi,,,,no thanks that motor was a dud in a car let alone a jetski !!!!

Originally Posted by pottsy

73kph hahahahahhahaha........hahahahahahaha unless you wieght 40kg wet I wouldn't go near this....love to know what boat shop in Mandurah looked at these....they might have said they go alright but are they gonna sell wthem?....I would say that to someone I didn't want to let down as well....also you are advertising a product on a popular forum but won't let anyone that has a non biased opinion of this product do a review...take this crap back to were ever you got it from and sell it to them...we already have enough cheap shit imported stuff to try and avoid

73kph as indicated by the digital dash ,,,go on bag that now haha

Actually it was the Yamaha dealer !!!!
His only problem was the gelcoat was not as "shiney" as the genuine item and the stickers were crap ! he also later told me that Yamaha had the same gelcoat problem early on and they now 2 pack theirs,,,,,

See me at Ocean Reef mariina one day and ask and you can get it a run anytime. No probelm !

You need to have a look round your own home and see just whats made in China already !!!!

I admit the bandit is not up to the Yamaha or Seadoo qaulity yet but they will be soon. Also I do remember in the late 90's Seadoo having a crap name for their motors,,,We all start some where !

We actually have several dealers on the east coast interested in the Bandit but not at the current exchange rates !!

Originally Posted by pottsy

there will be heaps of PWC enthusiasts down at the Narrows PWC area tommorrow for round 5 of the JSW race bring it down for people to have a look....I have heaps of jap and made in China stuff around my house have had it sitting around for years....

But I guess thats were I'm not being fair to you this stuff around my house is tried and tested and are know quality brands have been for years....It would be hard to break into a market that is controlled by 5 major brands....

Bringing your ski down to the race day tommorow would give you a great opportunity to advertise your product and let people have a look over it....If you have faith that you have a quality product then I'll see you down there....know need to race... it may generate some interest in what you have....

Hey I would love to but I work in Karratha nowadays and the jetski deal is shelved for now,,,but will get down there sometime,,,your right it would be a great avenue to see how it stands up to comments from guys in the know. Yes its hard to go up against the 5 players in the market now. Thanks for the invite.