Thread: PWC XS Liquidate

Hey guys looking at buying my first pwc and doing some homework.. Come across this website selling Seadoo & Yamaha pwc's. They seem to be priced pretty reasonably any thoughts are appreciated. Here is the website XS Liquidate
Does this seem to good to be true?? let me know what you think!! Has anyone dealt with them in the past.

have been trying to find a better price in and around adelaide with no luck. They supply warranty aswel.
What are the dangers if they are infact grey imports??

Grey imports dont come with warranty from the manufacturer. And if you investigate a little further you will see the warranty they offer isnt woth the paper its written on. Most Yamaha dealers wont service your ski or up date the software. And if you loose the transmitter, NO yamaha dealer will re-programme one!
You should check with your local dealer cause I know the dealers up the gold coast will compete on price with greys cos they are tired of backyarders stealing their business and they are left to pick up the pieces...

Half the time the warranty is such a grey area on most skis. AND.. any work usually takes forever. I have heard so many warranty delays exist around here, but dont mis-interpret me, not all dealers are slow, I also know this to be true.

One of my Skis is a so called "Grey", and it is one of the quickest, reliable and quality skis I have. The only reason the dealers won't touch it comes from beyond their control, so it's not the dealer. AND, if they wish, they could service it. BUDS takes a record, but it can easily be removed.

I know this is back to the usual debate, but I fail to see why dealers are prohibited. Ski prices here are a little accentuated to be honest. Give the dealer more to work with is the way. I have seen countless imports, and have only seen one in all of them with a problem, and, the seller in another part of the world honoured the repair.

Timescale was 4 days, over Easter period as well. 5 days after being brought in, ......it was back on the water.

It was a iBS unit that had failed. It was hot-couriered here... and was bang-on time too. I programmed it all back in, and sent the customer off for happy skiing. Now remember the unit was $900us, and $1400 here to buy. The customer paid nothing, he just had it fixed as per 'Doo specification.

As far as the Yammi immobiliser. They are easy to change out really.

It is good however, that the dealers have some scope to compete, but, no one is stealing any business in any way, shape or form. It almost sounds like a criminal dealing, IT'S NOT.

They are all perfectly legal, and work just as well, and have the same hiccups, whether bought here, or elsewhere.

AND, before the usual performance issue starts, with a few phone calls, one can get the so called restricted parts that steal 3knots, exchanged, and fixed on the ski. No problems.

Just another angle to view it all from.

Originally Posted by GCWR

compete on price with greys cos they are tired of backyarders stealing their business and they are left to pick up the pieces...

Mate, business is business. I love picking up the pieces. Why does one or two skis present such a problem. If its broken, its broken. Fix it, and charge.

Correct, it is not a criminal act.

Let set straight how this works. All PWC are indented by each country years before released. Indents are formed through the dealer network. In the japanese PWC case, they are purchased in YEN. Every country purchases their stock in YEN. Because the US market is so huge (big dealers retail 3-3.5 thousand per annum), the US market is subsidised by the US arm of the manufacturer. In Australia, we have such a small market, the Australian arm of the manufacturer cannot afford to subsidise their product (obviously even more now with the greys).

The Australian division offers warranty on its purchased units. The AUS division pays numerous staff to man the warehouses, take orders, customer service and the list goes on and on. They also keep a large faciltiy with stock ready to go for customers of theirs in case of a break down. The list goes on and on. So it is no cheap operation to be a massive distributor in Australia. They need their fair share of what their margin should be. It is actually the dealer who makes nest to nothing out of skis.

People have this belief that they should be able to bypass the correct means of purchasing a water craft (although not illegal) and expect the dealer to look after them. WRONG.

I certainly will refuse to work on any greys for the facts I have listed above. Also for the fact, I have people to employ, 200K of spare parts in stock so that if you come in on a saturday afternoon after a solenoid for your ski because you have organised a big gathering for your family tomorrow, I can supply it. I refuse that right to any grey importer so that I ensure MY and AUS customers are kept on the water.

Good on you for saving money by turning your back on the AUS distributors, but dont expect service and if yours is broke, find a backyarder to fix it!

I know that I will now compete with any grey import price, and im sure you will find many dealers starting to turn the tide on importers. Its already begun here! But for those already with imports, STIFF!

Good info, and correct on a multitude of points.

The PWC business is seasonal, and a lot of people forget this point too. 6 months of the year are good, and normal, but the down-side is next to nothing in winter months all told.

Stocking of parts is a blindingly expensive thing, and always shocks people when you have almost everything in store.


One thing is turn-around. Like I said, I got the massive part in 4 days, which shocked me when BRP here had no stock at all, and a 10 day wait was to be had.


Actually, I don't turn my back on distributors myself, I actually support them on a number of counts. I buy my stock thro a dealer here if at all possible, and often take a potential buyer through pro's and con's of each option. I then give them a contact to help them through purchase. Price is always a deciding factor, and reliability of the BRP range is excellent.

BTW, the dealer I get spares from is very prompt, and commendable, and I don't get any 'kick-backs' as such for sending buyers to them.

I figured that if the ski is a BRP product, I can fix it, no matter where it comes from, and why not?. Dealers can, if they want to, use this as an opportunity to sell in the future.

Turning your back on them will only make them buy another make if they want to. Most of the potential buyers will buy from dealers if they really want to, its just the incentive has to be shown. Not touching them makes people consider how well they would be treat if the warranty was a little vague.

I think the prices dealers can offer now is very close to imported final figures at times, and well done, am up for supporting it. Only thing is, as a "Non-Backyarder", I can look after all skis.

Sounds to me like somewhere beyond the dealer realm, the price has to be negotiated more finely. OR, maybe BRP themselves could assist in building the network more world-wide, rather than just a home market.

One thing I saw recently was a $6k bill to fix an imported one, but this still left the owner ahead in $$'s

I try to help all as fast as possible. Ski in and out 5 days has to be good for any dealer on a major problem.

Good 'on the dealers for getting more scope. One day I would like to aspire to be one. You have my support.

BTW, this sort of insight is good for people to see, and will help in the future for sure.

It certainly beats the cold shoulder treatment.

I say let the dealer touch and fix, then remove another reason to buy import.

Oh, and I forgot this point, which actually caught me out too.

When you buy a ski from a person, not dealer, you cannot be certain as to where it came from either.

Should dealers just ignore them, they did me. I finished by talking to a rude, bad mannered, foul mouthed person at HQ, and this spurred me on to be who I am today in Australia

$18500 later, I found out it was imported. !!!, plus the expletives of course from BRP.

Kinda puts people off from buying BRP as used skis, which will impact BRP here eventually. The buyer is the person to be nurtured to buy locally, and not to get a barrage of what I got.

Still, am a Seadoo fanatic, and recommend them to anyone. Where they buy is their perrogative remember, and you can be innocent in all this melee too.